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		<title>By: unlimited</title>
		<link>http://www.ysmblog.com/blog/2009/01/08/geo-vs-geo/comment-page-1/#comment-859959</link>
		<dc:creator>unlimited</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good article, I like the way it is focused, not as formal as these kind of articles are used to be and not only funny, it is also helpful and contains the necessary information needed. However, I am not using geo targeting at the moment and thus I can not say if this is working fine with yahoo or is better with others like google…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good article, I like the way it is focused, not as formal as these kind of articles are used to be and not only funny, it is also helpful and contains the necessary information needed. However, I am not using geo targeting at the moment and thus I can not say if this is working fine with yahoo or is better with others like google…</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.ysmblog.com/blog/2009/01/08/geo-vs-geo/comment-page-1/#comment-695338</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article... and a funny way to bring up this topic.

This comes up a lot w/ clients, and I agree there is some confusion here.  But yes, we run both types of &quot;geo targeting&quot; for our clients, and both have their place.

Here&#039;s a quick simple tip we can offer:

-- Watch out for the state abbreviations that are also common words.  For &quot;Indiana,&quot;  you end up w/ &quot;in&quot;... which makes for weird matches.  &quot;Dentist IN&quot; looks like &quot;Dentist in...&quot; and can be matched to many queries, including &quot;dentist in california&quot; etc.  There are other funny examples that come up, and are worth anticipating.  &quot;IN&quot; is one of the most common problematic ones.   

Cheers - good article!
[Guy
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.DroidINDUSTRIES.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Droid INDUSTRIES&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article&#8230; and a funny way to bring up this topic.</p>
<p>This comes up a lot w/ clients, and I agree there is some confusion here.  But yes, we run both types of &#8220;geo targeting&#8221; for our clients, and both have their place.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a quick simple tip we can offer:</p>
<p>&#8211; Watch out for the state abbreviations that are also common words.  For &#8220;Indiana,&#8221;  you end up w/ &#8220;in&#8221;&#8230; which makes for weird matches.  &#8220;Dentist IN&#8221; looks like &#8220;Dentist in&#8230;&#8221; and can be matched to many queries, including &#8220;dentist in california&#8221; etc.  There are other funny examples that come up, and are worth anticipating.  &#8220;IN&#8221; is one of the most common problematic ones.   </p>
<p>Cheers &#8211; good article!<br />
[Guy<br />
<a href="http://www.DroidINDUSTRIES.com" rel="nofollow">Droid INDUSTRIES</a></p>
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		<title>By: Guy Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.ysmblog.com/blog/2009/01/08/geo-vs-geo/comment-page-1/#comment-695337</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article... and a funny way to bring up this topic.

This comes up a lot w/ clients, and I agree there is some confusion here.  But yes, we run both types of &quot;geo targeting&quot; for our clients, and both have their place.

Here&#039;s a quick simple tip we can offer:

-- Watch out for the state abbreviations that are also common words.  For &quot;Indiana,&quot;  you end up w/ &quot;in&quot;... which makes for weird matches.  &quot;Dentist IN&quot; looks like &quot;Dentist in...&quot; and can be matched to many queries, including &quot;dentist in california&quot; etc.  There are other funny examples that come up, and are worth anticipating.  &quot;IN&quot; is one of the most common problematic ones.   

Cheers - good article!
[Guy
DroidINDUSTRIES.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article&#8230; and a funny way to bring up this topic.</p>
<p>This comes up a lot w/ clients, and I agree there is some confusion here.  But yes, we run both types of &#8220;geo targeting&#8221; for our clients, and both have their place.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a quick simple tip we can offer:</p>
<p>&#8211; Watch out for the state abbreviations that are also common words.  For &#8220;Indiana,&#8221;  you end up w/ &#8220;in&#8221;&#8230; which makes for weird matches.  &#8220;Dentist IN&#8221; looks like &#8220;Dentist in&#8230;&#8221; and can be matched to many queries, including &#8220;dentist in california&#8221; etc.  There are other funny examples that come up, and are worth anticipating.  &#8220;IN&#8221; is one of the most common problematic ones.   </p>
<p>Cheers &#8211; good article!<br />
[Guy<br />
DroidINDUSTRIES.com</p>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
		<link>http://www.ysmblog.com/blog/2009/01/08/geo-vs-geo/comment-page-1/#comment-695069</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This does nothing to help web sites selling hotels and flights in other cities and countries but who want to target only people living in one city. 

Why would I want to advertise a hotel in Chicago to people living in Chicago!? What if I want to target my Chicago hotel to people living in New York? The two-campaign idea wouldn&#039;t make sense. 

Yahoo! really needs to fix this issue...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This does nothing to help web sites selling hotels and flights in other cities and countries but who want to target only people living in one city. </p>
<p>Why would I want to advertise a hotel in Chicago to people living in Chicago!? What if I want to target my Chicago hotel to people living in New York? The two-campaign idea wouldn&#8217;t make sense. </p>
<p>Yahoo! really needs to fix this issue&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Unit</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Unit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, but not using this targeting at this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, but not using this targeting at this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter Gatherer</title>
		<link>http://www.ysmblog.com/blog/2009/01/08/geo-vs-geo/comment-page-1/#comment-694670</link>
		<dc:creator>Hunter Gatherer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to my conversations with Yahoo, their geotargeting is not geo-targeting the way any other marketer thinks of geotargeting.

You are not targeting audiences in the geo region you specify.  You are are targeting those who use the geo related term in their keyword string.

In other words, you can do the same thing with your keywords.  

Marketers wanting to geo-target generally mean that we want to target prospects within certain areas.  Yahoo is no help in doing this, so don&#039;t get confused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to my conversations with Yahoo, their geotargeting is not geo-targeting the way any other marketer thinks of geotargeting.</p>
<p>You are not targeting audiences in the geo region you specify.  You are are targeting those who use the geo related term in their keyword string.</p>
<p>In other words, you can do the same thing with your keywords.  </p>
<p>Marketers wanting to geo-target generally mean that we want to target prospects within certain areas.  Yahoo is no help in doing this, so don&#8217;t get confused.</p>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://www.ysmblog.com/blog/2009/01/08/geo-vs-geo/comment-page-1/#comment-689300</link>
		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zack (#1),

While it is true that our systems will attempt to match geo-targeted ads with search queries containing a geographical term (e.g., “san diego dentist”), creating keywords that use both types of Geo is our recommendation. Here’s why:

- If you only bid on the keyword “dentist” and geo-target to San Diego, you may lose some geographical precision, as your ad may appear to users interested or located in suburbs of San Diego, such as Del Mar or Imperial Beach.

- Using the explicit keyword “san diego dentist” could give you a relevance advantage over “dentist” geo-targeted to San Diego, since it would be a precise match to the user search query “san diego dentist.”

- Using the geo-modified keyword “san diego dentist” for a primary keyword like this can offer more precise control of your cost-per-click, the ads that are displayed for this keyword, and the management of your ROI.

Again, the bottom line is that for maximum traffic you should use both types of Geo, because our systems are drawing from both “pools” as they determine which ads to display.

- Jeff Hecox</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zack (#1),</p>
<p>While it is true that our systems will attempt to match geo-targeted ads with search queries containing a geographical term (e.g., “san diego dentist”), creating keywords that use both types of Geo is our recommendation. Here’s why:</p>
<p>- If you only bid on the keyword “dentist” and geo-target to San Diego, you may lose some geographical precision, as your ad may appear to users interested or located in suburbs of San Diego, such as Del Mar or Imperial Beach.</p>
<p>- Using the explicit keyword “san diego dentist” could give you a relevance advantage over “dentist” geo-targeted to San Diego, since it would be a precise match to the user search query “san diego dentist.”</p>
<p>- Using the geo-modified keyword “san diego dentist” for a primary keyword like this can offer more precise control of your cost-per-click, the ads that are displayed for this keyword, and the management of your ROI.</p>
<p>Again, the bottom line is that for maximum traffic you should use both types of Geo, because our systems are drawing from both “pools” as they determine which ads to display.</p>
<p>- Jeff Hecox</p>
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		<title>By: ABrown</title>
		<link>http://www.ysmblog.com/blog/2009/01/08/geo-vs-geo/comment-page-1/#comment-687485</link>
		<dc:creator>ABrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matchtypes are important with geotargeting as well.  Panama has a nasty habit of completely ignoring geo modifiers seemingly at random and sending your ad out nationally for the unmodified search queries.  If you geo modify keywords and use advanced match, keep a close eye on your query logs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matchtypes are important with geotargeting as well.  Panama has a nasty habit of completely ignoring geo modifiers seemingly at random and sending your ad out nationally for the unmodified search queries.  If you geo modify keywords and use advanced match, keep a close eye on your query logs.</p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://www.ysmblog.com/blog/2009/01/08/geo-vs-geo/comment-page-1/#comment-680192</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be a disconnect between Daryl&#039;s words and the DVD he left for you, which says that if a user uses a geographic location in their query (e.g. Los Angeles) an ad geo-targeted to LA will show, regardless of their location. Since geo-modified ads will only show if the searcher uses a geographic indicator in their query, why do we need to do both?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be a disconnect between Daryl&#8217;s words and the DVD he left for you, which says that if a user uses a geographic location in their query (e.g. Los Angeles) an ad geo-targeted to LA will show, regardless of their location. Since geo-modified ads will only show if the searcher uses a geographic indicator in their query, why do we need to do both?</p>
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